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	<description>Mishelle Shepard (Czech Republic 1994-96) will be blogging about her experiences in homesteading. With the ultimate goal of becoming completely self-sufficient and energy-independent she and her handy husband can’t yet quit their day jobs, but invite wanna-be and expert homesteaders to share their experiences and to laugh at their myriad mistakes in Homesteading: Starting from Scratch.  Mishelle will be covering any and all topics pertinent to the homesteading lifestyle beginning with the what, where, why and eventually including everything.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://peacecorpsworldwide.org/homesteading/2013/01/01/guns-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joey you say, "There is no duty to take up arms against our government."  It would seems the founders of this government would disagree.  Just a few quotes from a couple of men that saw tyranny in their day:  (many more similiar quotes just use google)

■“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” — George Washington

■ “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” (Thomas Jefferson)

■“And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not  warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of  resistance? Let them take arms….The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants” (Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William S. Smith in 1787)

I agree with you when you further say, "We have an obligation to use the ballot and the court system to hold our government accountable."   However, the founding fathers had the foresight to gauranteed us additional rights (as in the right to bear arms) if our ballots are corrupted and the court system circumvented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey you say, &#8220;There is no duty to take up arms against our government.&#8221;  It would seems the founders of this government would disagree.  Just a few quotes from a couple of men that saw tyranny in their day:  (many more similiar quotes just use google)</p>
<p>■“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” — George Washington</p>
<p>■ “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” (Thomas Jefferson)</p>
<p>■“And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not  warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of  resistance? Let them take arms….The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants” (Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William S. Smith in 1787)</p>
<p>I agree with you when you further say, &#8220;We have an obligation to use the ballot and the court system to hold our government accountable.&#8221;   However, the founding fathers had the foresight to gauranteed us additional rights (as in the right to bear arms) if our ballots are corrupted and the court system circumvented.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://peacecorpsworldwide.org/homesteading/2013/01/01/guns-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Mishelle. Laws only restrict the law abiding citizen, not the people that would do harm. I am against ANY gun control, there is no compromise. I took a oath to defend the constitution against all enemies and I will uphold that oath at all costs. 

How come all of these shootings have taken place in gun free zones? I am waiting for a anti gun person to answer this one simple question. Also how come no one mentions the school shooting in Jonesboro, Arkansas? The shooter was stopped by a principal with a weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Mishelle. Laws only restrict the law abiding citizen, not the people that would do harm. I am against ANY gun control, there is no compromise. I took a oath to defend the constitution against all enemies and I will uphold that oath at all costs. </p>
<p>How come all of these shootings have taken place in gun free zones? I am waiting for a anti gun person to answer this one simple question. Also how come no one mentions the school shooting in Jonesboro, Arkansas? The shooter was stopped by a principal with a weapon.</p>
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		<title>By: mishelle</title>
		<link>http://peacecorpsworldwide.org/homesteading/2013/01/01/guns-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>mishelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grannie, thanks for your comment and info.  I'm shocked!  So many laws and still gun violence, and yet, laws on other things, like prostitution, marijuana and drugs and past liquor prohibition are so very effective.  It's so puzzling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grannie, thanks for your comment and info.  I&#8217;m shocked!  So many laws and still gun violence, and yet, laws on other things, like prostitution, marijuana and drugs and past liquor prohibition are so very effective.  It&#8217;s so puzzling!</p>
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		<title>By: mishelle</title>
		<link>http://peacecorpsworldwide.org/homesteading/2013/01/01/guns-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>mishelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There is no legitimate exception to the Second Amendment for military-style weapons, because military-style weapons are precisely what the Second Amendment guarantees our right to keep and bear. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to secure our ability to oppose enemies foreign and domestic, a guarantee against disorder and tyranny. Consider the words of Supreme Court justice Joseph Story — who was, it bears noting, appointed to the Court by the guy who wrote the Constitution:


The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.

 “Usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers” — not Bambi, not burglars."
posted by GraniteGrok.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no legitimate exception to the Second Amendment for military-style weapons, because military-style weapons are precisely what the Second Amendment guarantees our right to keep and bear. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to secure our ability to oppose enemies foreign and domestic, a guarantee against disorder and tyranny. Consider the words of Supreme Court justice Joseph Story — who was, it bears noting, appointed to the Court by the guy who wrote the Constitution:</p>
<p>The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.</p>
<p> “Usurpation and arbitrary power of the rulers” — not Bambi, not burglars.&#8221;<br />
posted by GraniteGrok.com</p>
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		<title>By: mishelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>mishelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is a good read on the topic of 2nd:
http://granitegrok.com/blog/2013/01/the-true-meaning-of-the-second-amendment-and-it-isnt-for-sport-or-hunting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a good read on the topic of 2nd:<br />
<a href="http://granitegrok.com/blog/2013/01/the-true-meaning-of-the-second-amendment-and-it-isnt-for-sport-or-hunting" rel="nofollow">http://granitegrok.com/blog/2013/01/the-true-meaning-of-the-second-amendment-and-it-isnt-for-sport-or-hunting</a></p>
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		<title>By: mishelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>mishelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joey, I am not making this up, I promise you, I would never do that. Please read Principle Two of Naomi Wolf's Give Me Liberty:  Personal Risk in Defense of Liberty.  Even Ghandi advocated violence against tyranny, look it up.  As for MLK, I admire him and non-violence above all.  But unfortunately times have changed since then, for the worse--we are not even allowed to march and PEACEFULLY gather as was done then.  If this is not about gradually shaving away at our civil liberties, then why are we seeing them rewritten without our consent, one by one?  The entire system is bought and sold, the courts are as bound as we are by the Patriot Act, NDAA.  We have been trying to change the awful laws, but they are only getting worse, how is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey, I am not making this up, I promise you, I would never do that. Please read Principle Two of Naomi Wolf&#8217;s Give Me Liberty:  Personal Risk in Defense of Liberty.  Even Ghandi advocated violence against tyranny, look it up.  As for MLK, I admire him and non-violence above all.  But unfortunately times have changed since then, for the worse&#8211;we are not even allowed to march and PEACEFULLY gather as was done then.  If this is not about gradually shaving away at our civil liberties, then why are we seeing them rewritten without our consent, one by one?  The entire system is bought and sold, the courts are as bound as we are by the Patriot Act, NDAA.  We have been trying to change the awful laws, but they are only getting worse, how is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,
I have avoided commenting about some of your political statements.
I admire your integrity and your beautiful writing.  But, conscience compels me to respond to your statement:

 "It’s about the 2nd Amendment and the DUTY of American citizens to take up arms against an enemy, foreign or domestic, including our own criminal government." 

I disagree with you, wholeheartedly. There is no duty to take up arms against our government.  That is bullshit.  You are making stuff up.
 
We have an obligation to use the ballot and the court system to hold our government accountable.  It is not easy. But, I revere Martin Luther King, who faced far more injustice that you can possibly imagine.  He was non-violent and he successfully used the court system and the ballot box to change the awful laws in our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,<br />
I have avoided commenting about some of your political statements.<br />
I admire your integrity and your beautiful writing.  But, conscience compels me to respond to your statement:</p>
<p> &#8220;It’s about the 2nd Amendment and the DUTY of American citizens to take up arms against an enemy, foreign or domestic, including our own criminal government.&#8221; </p>
<p>I disagree with you, wholeheartedly. There is no duty to take up arms against our government.  That is bullshit.  You are making stuff up.</p>
<p>We have an obligation to use the ballot and the court system to hold our government accountable.  It is not easy. But, I revere Martin Luther King, who faced far more injustice that you can possibly imagine.  He was non-violent and he successfully used the court system and the ballot box to change the awful laws in our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Grannie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marrianne                                                                                                            We have 2000 gun laws on the books . The only people that would obey more laws are the law abiding honest citizens that would never use their guns to hurt an innocent person or animal. So now tell me ,what kind of laws would you implement that would target the criminals who pay no attention to the 2000 guns laws we already have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marrianne                                                                                                            We have 2000 gun laws on the books . The only people that would obey more laws are the law abiding honest citizens that would never use their guns to hurt an innocent person or animal. So now tell me ,what kind of laws would you implement that would target the criminals who pay no attention to the 2000 guns laws we already have?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 13:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marianne,

If you and those like you  embrace "Strong gun control" as a solution or even as a partial solution to what should be the larger debate you've missed the point.

That larger debate should be about violence in our society as promoted by our government, media, and economic oppression.

By supporting "Strong gun control" you have allowed yourself to become an agent to the same government whose deeds include  giving  guns to Mexician drug cartels, killing women and children at Waco, and countless for profit wars.

Be careful of the comany you keep and their real motives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marianne,</p>
<p>If you and those like you  embrace &#8220;Strong gun control&#8221; as a solution or even as a partial solution to what should be the larger debate you&#8217;ve missed the point.</p>
<p>That larger debate should be about violence in our society as promoted by our government, media, and economic oppression.</p>
<p>By supporting &#8220;Strong gun control&#8221; you have allowed yourself to become an agent to the same government whose deeds include  giving  guns to Mexician drug cartels, killing women and children at Waco, and countless for profit wars.</p>
<p>Be careful of the comany you keep and their real motives.</p>
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		<title>By: mishelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>mishelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marianne, there is no public debate and there never will be, so how can I lower it? They government will do exactly what it has planned, Aurora and Sandy Hook as well as 911 were False Flag Ops. There is no chance to get a real debate with "I demand a plan" video presentations compiled by "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" . This issue was never about illegal guns, it is not about "lone crazed shooters", it is not about guns for personal protection or hunting. It's about the 2nd Amendment and the DUTY of American citizens to take up arms against an enemy, foreign or domestic, including our own criminal government. Please, I urge you to read Naomi Wolf!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marianne, there is no public debate and there never will be, so how can I lower it? They government will do exactly what it has planned, Aurora and Sandy Hook as well as 911 were False Flag Ops. There is no chance to get a real debate with &#8220;I demand a plan&#8221; video presentations compiled by &#8220;Mayors Against Illegal Guns&#8221; . This issue was never about illegal guns, it is not about &#8220;lone crazed shooters&#8221;, it is not about guns for personal protection or hunting. It&#8217;s about the 2nd Amendment and the DUTY of American citizens to take up arms against an enemy, foreign or domestic, including our own criminal government. Please, I urge you to read Naomi Wolf!</p>
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